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PostSubject: H2H Questions   Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:31 am

First topic message reminder :

I'll start off:

What control level is your starting technique?

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:19 pm

yah, i dun mind any race doin it. i just didn't want to EXCLUDE demons xD thrusting spirits into a blade or something like this, hammer fire and what not. good times...
kaz! make this path/quest and send it to me for approval!
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:21 pm

Psi_Prince wrote:

4) How is anyone ever gonna be able to afford a High Rise (if it does not become the new reward for Corporate - Checkpoint 2) or especially a Skyscraper? Even a research center is 150,000 which is out of my range and I believe I'm the highest paid member character on the site?

This is a good point. A lot of stuff is out of reach of people; even those with the highest paying jobs! What's more, on the personnel side, while the other 3 are types that can be contracted and thus negotiated in price, Grunts are supposedly $15,000 a week. Each! The highest paying job is $5,000 a week (I believe). I just find it funny that buildings, cars, and personnel are so hard to get, but equipment is cheap as hell.

Of course, that wasn't a question. My actual question would be this: how up to date is the Active Quest portion of the quest page? I thought someone claimed Showdown, Arch Spirit, Good Graces and Tagging already, and Tiamat is currently a major group quest or something.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jun 25, 2009 1:51 pm

Showdown has been done.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jun 25, 2009 2:01 pm

So has Good Graces
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jun 25, 2009 3:12 pm

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I just find it funny that buildings, cars, and personnel are so hard to get, but equipment is cheap as hell.
Yeah, because drug dealers should obviously be able to afford helicopters with spinning rims.
^Sarcasm

If you look at this slightly realistically, it should be common knowledge that some things cost more than others. I.e. a shank or 'gear' would be easier to get than a house. The only people buying high ticket items should be members that have grouped together several organizations or a corporation. It's inane to think that one person would be able to use their pocket funds to buy something of such a high caliber. Chances are, no one's going to pay off a skyscraper... but Shin and Kaz both came up with quests to put up to $100,000 in a members pocket, which should be well enough to rent a high ticket item.

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:50 pm

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Yeah, because drug dealers should obviously be able to afford helicopters with spinning rims.
^Sarcasm

If you look at this slightly realistically, it should be common knowledge that some things cost more than others. I.e. a shank or 'gear' would be easier to get than a house. The only people buying high ticket items should be members that have grouped together several organizations or a corporation. It's inane to think that one person would be able to use their pocket funds to buy something of such a high caliber. Chances are, no one's going to pay off a skyscraper... but Shin and Kaz both came up with quests to put up to $100,000 in a members pocket, which should be well enough to rent a high ticket item.

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:52 pm

Kiun wrote:
escalation wrote:

Yeah, because drug dealers should obviously be able to afford helicopters with spinning rims.
^Sarcasm

If you look at this slightly realistically, it should be common knowledge that some things cost more than others. I.e. a shank or 'gear' would be easier to get than a house. The only people buying high ticket items should be members that have grouped together several organizations or a corporation. It's inane to think that one person would be able to use their pocket funds to buy something of such a high caliber. Chances are, no one's going to pay off a skyscraper... but Shin and Kaz both came up with quests to put up to $100,000 in a members pocket, which should be well enough to rent a high ticket item.

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Aww... Good job. I can tell you did your best. I'll put this on the refrigerator.

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:36 am

I still want a boat.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 1:40 am

I think you guys are over looking something. One person isn't meant to have this stuff. Note the Team Path. Make you a team of hmm 4 ppl all 4 of them ppl do the Building an Organization path... Everyone put there money into the team... Oh wow now you have a Team that makes a lot of money (5000*4=20,000 note it be a little less b/c of stuff taken out but you get the point) Has 5 small building and can have up to 200 operatives. Now we go on to the Corporate all 4 ppl finish that and wow talk about a power house. You got a big ass syndicate with 5 small buildings and 4 large buildings... I'm sure you can make money from having these buildings or other wise they are just pointless.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 2:17 am



Well Actually in Theory as I put my Job and Path's all into my storyline. I am a Moocher and son of a Father who is a Publisher and Mother who is well connected in the Political scene as a Defense Industry insider. As long as it is realistically within the characters means of by the approved story line, Job and Path. I think some things could be legitimately requested and granted for within some reasonable limit. If what they request has something to do with their job, story line or life path and should be able to reasonably obtain that thing or item along there progression. I do not see why not for as long as it is not abused to badly. As it is all what should be considered within reason for that characters means and way of influence in obtaining what they desire. Not able to have. Tell that to Trump. lmao

We are a bit far off from being able to draw that many active people to form teams and allinces as of yet. How many actively writing members do we have rite now. As it perhaps may don on you. Some people will have no choice but go it alone as other would be able to find a couple to team up with. Why hender a person because there unable to hook up with anyone do to inactivity of the other people when there wanting to be active now and want to achieve something in along there story line. Also a well defined and planted charectors with the means to create a stable story base will be able to best help other just starting out with a hand up to get a more better and less stressfull start than they did.

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 3:03 am

Well said, Dwem. Another example is Psyre. His company, PsiCoven, is owned by him. Other members are coming to work for him, but he alone is Boss. When I finish Building an Organization, I (not everyone in the company) move into Corporate Path. Your idea is the "perfect world scenario". The fatal flaw is that unless you limit all of the members or Shin allows community word count for teams with checkpoints equal to 25k per member, certain members will reach their checkpoints before others. The other issue would be the factor of forcing teams which we've learned in the past will take away from their true purpose. The Eastside Guns are an example of what teams are meant to be. Groups of characters that form a clique together and generally have equal interest in the group. If teams were only the means to get skyscrapers and high rises and building security then you would see "teams of necessity" springing up.

Now if both of our theories/plans for using the buildings to make money is correct, let's analyze the IC validity of your situation. A group of high school delinquents doing Path of Building an Organization. Let's say that all 4 of you reach Checkpoint 1. What exactly is it about being a HS delinquent that will allow them to be paid $5000/wk? Looking past that, who is going to give a small building to a 16 year old HS delinquent? How are you going to manage said property? Now let's do as you said and multiple that by 4... just pointing out the obvious flaw in your argument.

Personally, it's more logical for one person with a legitimate, believable storyline to be able to get a building than a team with a storyline that is not believable. Also, using a RL example, Steve Wynn, the owner of Wynn and Encore hotels in Vegas is the owner of those hotels. No matter who the COO or CFO of Wynn Enterprises is, he is the owner. Same with Trump and he owns a lot of high rises. So I disagree with your argument that one person isn't meant to have this. Heck even the Site NPC, Yazimitsu most likely owns his company's properties outright, not Yazimitsu Corporation's Board of Directors.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:47 am

Why is everything an argument with you? Take a chill pill or something or go get laided. I wasn't making any argument I was just saying how I saw it.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 5:08 am

Why are you such a drama queen? I like how Dwem pointed out the same flaw in his way yet you cry because I said something you that didn't agree with you... *Tear* Besides, aren't you supposed to be on vacation or something? As for the getting laid (laided is not a word, use spell check please) request, did that already. She was sitting behind me reading Dead Before Dark while I wrote that actually. For someone who claims to be a total bitch who says mean stuff, you sure whine a lot. Very simple though, if you don't want anyone (me) to comment on your thoughts/ideas... don't say them out loud. Here's a smart idea for you... don't reference or speak of me on the boards. I'll probably respond and you probably won't like it. If you have an issue with me, your best bet is to take it up with me via PM b/c I've actually become a very nice Kaz I'm told. So yeah... if you can't heed simple advice, you may respond here... Kaz is mean to me!
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:14 am

kiun makes a good point. buy grunts cost 15,000 but they only get paid 3,000... so i might lower the price of grunts. kyro also makes a good point. the purpose of those new corporate quests is like the new MP quest for h2h. but those are open to several paths, so ppl should be able to start makin money soon. kaz, did you mean "she" or "he" ? xD rekoa's point is fine if you look at the purpose of the team. if you make a team of vigilantes, then you pool money and make the justice league!

but i would like members to work together but like dwem said, it'd be the basic same ppl takin 1 path. kyro + person 2 + person 3... so ya. dun worry, i'll take a look at the system this weekend and kinda dumb up how to make money when ur in a position where u need it.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:48 pm

Wow, I feel liked. Well I am for one realize at times my spelling really and trully is challenged. Ya, thats the nice way of saying it. I will promise to step back and try to offer helpful advice and hopefully fogoe my personaly challenged momments of the past.

Razz Thanks Big Bos The Shin. I dont wish to fight. Gives everyone a huge hug. I only felt I could contribute a bit to this discussion. cheers Gives Rekoa a tackle hug like Happy Gilmore. lol!

After all flaming no bars held brawling makes the place look ugly. I only figure to give my persective in the situation as I saw how it affected me and as well as all the others.

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:14 pm

Shin: Can a Spirit Blacksmith make armor as well and/or protective charms/accessories?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:18 pm

That would be pretty cool cheers
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Sun Jun 28, 2009 8:00 pm

If you own a building that you are using as part of your business/operations and not renting it out, does it make claimable revenue for your company or no?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Mon Jun 29, 2009 9:23 am

@ dwem - huh?
@ psi - sure
@ rune - i kno rye!
@ psi - nah, a portion of it has to be rented out to make dough

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Mon Jun 29, 2009 4:47 pm

Suspect Hey The Dwem is all Happy Go, Go. Dont mess with the Karma baby. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Jul 07, 2009 12:54 pm

I have some QQ's.

1: During the full moon, the Woylf gains Ascended defense and firearms do Fierce (Ascended) damage. If the woylf where to get shot during the full moon, would the bullets penetrate there hide, in the description of the 'Superhuman Endurance' tech it says that it resist bullets and cutting wounds, this would mean it prevents bullets and bladed weapons from penetrating the skin?

2: A damage question, if a human with Weak defense where to get hit by a Fierce damaging attack, would the attack do straight up 75% damage or would it be reduced to 65% from the weak defense?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:00 pm

1) ya bullets wouldn't get thro that pelt, but it should sting xD
2) the human's def would weaken the attack

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:01 pm

Ah, alright.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Fri Jul 17, 2009 2:45 pm

Could the Doku poison be applied to a bladed weapon and what is the amount of damage it does, it sounds like it starts at a low number and slowly gets higher
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Mon Jul 27, 2009 5:36 pm

Would you able to combined the tora twine and a dagger/knife like weapon to use the dagger/knife at a range, like whip it around and stuff >_> do some neat-o stuff like you see people do, lols.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Mon Jul 27, 2009 6:04 pm

yes

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Mon Jul 27, 2009 8:03 pm

Alright, here comes a hard one Twisted Evil . Since a woylf, while in its werewolf form would still be humanoid would it be able to wield weapons, I can understand not being able to wield guns but what I'm wondering is would they be able to wield bladed weapons like swords and the like.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:55 am

ya, swords and sword-chuks should be fine

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:40 pm

lol sword-chucks! xD ill just use my two fisted monkey style
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:47 pm

that would owned -d

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:52 pm

Yeah Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:15 am

Rune, I don't know what that attack does but I sure hope you keep your pants on for it.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jul 30, 2009 9:02 am

lmao! that's right... lycan's are nude!... dun lose ur jon jon xD

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Jul 30, 2009 12:51 pm

Lols, Yeah... we do go around naked all the time Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Sun Aug 02, 2009 7:26 am


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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Aug 11, 2009 8:46 pm

Since a possession is a spirit, if the character dies, is it possible to learn old possession techs that the spirit had as customs? Like if someone wanted to be a oni wolf/fox like Naruto, could they create customs out of some of their old wolyf abilities?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Wed Aug 12, 2009 8:10 am

nope

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Sat Sep 05, 2009 12:54 am

I have a question!! I know the answer is probably gonna be know but there is always a chance it can be yes! I was wondering, for the humans free item, if they were like a police officer job, could they get a weapon from the military exchange page instead as there free item?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Sat Sep 05, 2009 10:37 pm

Umm... it was just brought to my attention that Guns do Fierce damage and Bullets move at a rate of Supreme... now according to the description page that is very inaccurate.

Physical 2 Page wrote:
Mechanical Weapon Projectile
Restrictions: abilities must be performed in humanoid form.
Guns deal Fierce damage at Max.
Bullets move at a Supreme rate.

Breakdown Page wrote:
Strong | High
Abnormally strong attributes that surpasses that of what could be considered normal. The type of attack that can dent metal.
- 30% Stamina

» Ascended | Fierce
Demigod powers, the type that superman might have. A deadly attack that can destroy walls.
- 40% Stamina

» Supreme | Destructive
God like abilities and strength, far from the scale of understanding. An attack that can destroy buildings.
- 50% Stamina

Superman was faster than a speeding bullet and when a bullet hit him, it bounced off. Simply using the description provided, bullets would be both slower and weaker than Fierce rating. Also, Fierce is described as an attack that can destroy walls. Most Fierce attacks are single objects or forces, the current rating on guns would mean that Div 12 and the police would destroy the city if a bullet can destroy a wall. Bullets can dent normal metal for sure, but even with Saicity being technologically advanced, fierce damage bullets when we have assault rifles would mean that even a full moon wolyf (w/o maxed Futeki) would be killed after 10 shots... 50 Cent took 9 and survived and he's a normal human! So the stat heaviest supernatural creature has the defense capability of 50 Cent yet it says that they have the powers of a demigod.

Just thought I'd mention it.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Sat Sep 05, 2009 11:55 pm

When someone things attack, they think of a basic punch or blast, which probably could destroy a wall. If a bullet was the size of a fist, it could probably destroy a wall as well. The difference isn't the power behind the attack, but the size of the area of impact; i.e. a laser wouldn't 'destroy' a wall when condensed.

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:05 am

Huh?

Are you tipsy too b/c normally you make sense but I don't understand that explanation at all?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:29 am

50 cent is a demgod!? So that is why it is hot in here.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:38 pm

i think he's sayin if you shot a car w/the same velocity as a bullet it'd go more dmg b/c of the properties of mass or somethin or other... either that, or he's talkin about a sell at TJ Maxx

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:02 pm

It almost looks as if you're afraid of getting shot, granted, which isn't bad. But alas, there are ways to avoid bullets on this site and you should know some of them; they're actually quite easy and convenient for those looking to resist bullets. Of course, critical hits, grazes and whatnot come into play, making bullets not a auto kill, since if they go through you, then it's almost like a graze, which limits the damage as explained on the site. Maybe it works like that, maybe not; but still, it's a though. You should know from previous suggestions about calibrating various things, not to. Weakening guns significantly weakens the weakest class on the site: humans. So what should be given to them to increase their effectiveness against the big bad spirits and demons with said god level abilities as you've pointed out? The current way seemed fine for several months, what changed? Has someone been leaving you threatening voicemails?

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:20 am

Normal humans are supposed to be weak and easy to kill tho. To compensate we give them something overpowered weapons? If the bullet goes THROUGH you, it hit you at full power, which is 75%. Still, you aren't accounting for a simple fact that a lot of RPers have been overlooking.

Human with Weak stats has gun against Wolyf with Strong stats... Human shoots wolyf. Bullet releases and moves at Supreme rate which is TWO classes above Strong, so even with the higher stats, bullets should not miss unless I'm missing a factor. Bullettime triggers reaction, but does that ability legitimately boost the Strong stat character to match Supreme. It heightens your reaction, but even I wouldn't try to say that my Honed Bullettime is going to legitimately allow me to dodge something moving at Supreme rate.

Also, no, if I was worried just for my own safety, I would simply pick up mechanical projectile package and hope that I get to shoot first. Honestly, it really just seems overpowered. Also, something regarding combat holding up here doesn't mean much b/c people damn near NEVER fight anyone except for NPCs. It isn't a personal thing, I just want to know before I use OOC disdain to come and kill you IC.
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Sep 10, 2009 9:31 am

the lycan class has like a fur hardening tech that stops bullets
i'll look into the bullet/gun thing when i get a chance. thx for the input

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:35 am

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ya, the bad kids just dun go to school. the school district is really big, so it can have so many ppl in it. makin community centers'll prob be better. um.... i guess this can be handled in the thread w/the council member unless you wanna go to the academic district to see if you can make a satellite school for the ungifted or somthin?

1) So is there ONE high school for everyone or are just all schools in the Academic District b/c if there is just one school, who do the clubs compete against?
2) Are you serious about the bad kids just not going to school b/c if you are then I think I will be requesting to build either a satellite school or a second private academy that is open to all students in the Lower Commons and Gunshyne Bastion who don't go to school in Gunshyne Bastion?

3) I still want to improve Community Centers as well, but I want to open several "Psi Voli Combat Academies" in the primary neighborhoods of the Lower Commons. They would be mixed martial arts training academies that would be like the community centers but different b/c at the Academy that youth would receive an education "customized" to "battle/combat". So they would learn math in terms of money and fighting point systems and that sort of thing. They would learn history in terms of what caused different conflicts as well as the history of different martial arts. Science would be taught in terms of combat and recovery. This way they learn biology, anatomy, physiology, physics, and psychology because all of these are important for mixed martial arts. By teaching them combat rules/code of conduct, they will be taught to adhere to rules and regulations. Now how do I get them to do this... with what most of them want... money. Psyre would be creating the "Rival Schools: UFC Edition" basically in the Lower Commons where different academies compete against each other for money and bragging rights. We institute a rule that fighting outside of the "Organization" incurs fines and possible expulsion from the program which loses them an opportunity to make enough money to live a good life.

If successful, this combat academy system would drastically reduce the recruiting efforts of the gangs and such b/c why risk your life and freedom for pennies, when you can learn to fight better and make dollars? So now... would I need to rent small buildings for all of the Academies? Also, how would I be able to gauge the success of the program? How would one go about creating a "Realm 2.0 Virtual Arena". That way if the program is really successful in its opening season or so, we can make it a PPV thing so that anyone in the city can watch it b/c I plan on starting it with Psyre's business associates who want to see live, real, non-barbaric, but entertaining fights betting on the fights. Yeah, so I'm just wondering how/if that would work with the H2H system?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Sep 15, 2009 11:53 am

1) all schools in the academic area i guess would be the best descript.
2) sounds gud, gotta get accreditation tho... and ur black, so u got bad credit (HA i made a funneh!)
3) So now... would I need to rent small buildings for all of the Academies? Of course!
Also, how would I be able to gauge the success of the program? It'd be hard, but I'd probably come up w/some type of timebased thing that would make sense... wouldn't make sense to have obedient superwarriors in a month site time.
How would one go about creating a "Realm 2.0 Virtual Arena". Get a programmer
Yeah, so I'm just wondering how/if that would work with the H2H system? If I make it work. It'd have to be something me or someone else would monitor. It won't work like ur thinkin tho. you won't have like a billion recruits for an army like ur master shredder or something. ppl would/should retain their ambitions, wills, attitudes, etc. i'm just lookin at the big picture tho. they'd still be site NPCs since they're not a part of your path, therefore not controlled by you. if they WERE they'd be taken into account by you purchasing units or getting agents or w/e with your path. seems interestin tho.

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:28 pm

2) Who do I speak to or apply for accreditation thru b/c the Principal/Head Master and teachers would be real NPC teachers that would be hired.

3) I don't want them as an army. Some of the students at this academy will be offered "scholarships" to attend Koraer Academy for the Gifted, but that is separate and primarily storyline based. This really is part of Psyre's plan to greatly reduce gang/petty crime recruitment in conjunction with his paramilitary security tactics. I don't need/want any control over the students to be honest, except like the occasional random student that Psyre meets or interacts with when he tours the academies to get updates. Psyre will basically be the organizer and financier of this project, but the students will even be trained by NPCs b/c Psyre doesn't have any physical fighting packages... yet. So yeah, I think we're solid there.

Programmer: How much would a small team of them cost per month?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Wed Sep 16, 2009 8:36 am

2) we'll jump that monkey when we find it
3) cool
*) how much u got?

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Wed Sep 16, 2009 2:27 pm

I got a lil more than enough and lil less than too much. Will that work?
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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:46 am

$104,986 should do it

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PostSubject: Re: H2H Questions   Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:01 am

if you really wanted a serious answer and you wanted to "BUY" a legitimate programmer... the job on the job page for a support specilist is about 2k a week. a 6 month contract should be enough for the job, so take 2k x # of programmers x 12 (weeks in 6 months) and that'll give you a realistic number. m022

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