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PostSubject: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 01, 2010 11:23 am

First topic message reminder :

okay, so by popular demand this will be the OOC board
no more monthlies!
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jun 25, 2010 2:02 pm

Good, so maybe we can do that RP we talked about. ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptySat Jun 26, 2010 1:25 pm

Don't trust him.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 29, 2010 10:48 am

yo! i heard from imm. he's currently working insane hours and moving into a new place. he says he's going to be gettin his internets sometime this week, but he seems to be doin good. i told him i'd tell everyone hi.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 29, 2010 11:57 am

Yay I get to pick on Imm again!
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jun 29, 2010 5:41 pm

He was a great person, godspeed to his return.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 10:25 am

lol. sayin was like he dead xD i dunno if he's comin back here, but he should be on messenger.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jun 30, 2010 5:50 pm

escalation wrote:
He is a great person, godspeed to his return.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 12:34 pm

Mmm, I wonder if you guys had ever thought on this idea? If you train for a package by actually typing it out, why don't you allow that package to grant 1 ability [at novice] that costs 2 texp? Like rewarding someone for not just getting it by trading in exp?

But I do like what you did with the system. However, I'd think it would be harder to learn abilities and packages on your own, rather then in a group setting. But that may just be me. [I do think I get why you increased the words for group trainin' though].
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 12:57 pm

xD actually i didn't increase for group training (i actually did the opposite xD and 50 less words for training)
BUT i just added solo at a lowered value

before solo's and groups were the same
so i basically made it easier to do solos and separated it from groups xD

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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 6:59 pm

This is awesome the day -after- I do a solo.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 7:45 pm

Training a Technique costs:
* Novice: 200 WC per star
* Trained: 300 WC per star
* Honed: 400 WC per star
* Mastered: 500 WC per star

I believe these levels should look like this:

Training a Technique costs:
* Trained: 200 WC per star
* Honed: 300 WC per star
* Mastered: 400 WC per star
* Perfected: 500 WC per star

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Honestly, I think the system makes sense now tho I don't think group trainings should have been reduced to 350 b/c why would I pay 400 per star to Master a tech when I can pay 350 in a group RP? I think those should have remained on par with one another and then to truly perfect a technique, it is easier to perform at higher levels when you have someone to practice against b/c they are moving and reacting in "unpredictable" manners.

I have always believed that unlocking a package should unlock an ability with it, even if it is the first listed ability or lowest TEXP costing ability.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 9:04 pm

You know the members names being in white is rather annoying it blends in with the background >.O
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 9:30 pm

I think you're way is actually more confusing. If I'm at Novice and I'm trying to get to the next level, I know how much stars cost when you're training a technique you're a Novice at; I just look to Novice and see 200.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 9:39 pm

You're training to reach a level not leave a level. If I wanna perfect something then it makes more sense to see: "Oh to perfect it, I need 500 words per star, rather than I'm at this level so to no longer be this level, I train this much." It's probably saying the same thing, but you learn the tech to get to novice, so it looks like a level is missing, which would be Perfected.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 10:01 pm

Your way is still more complicated.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 10:01 pm

Kaguyalover wrote:
You know the members names being in white is rather annoying it blends in with the background >.O
This is true.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 10:26 pm

Kay, so I'ma be gone for the weekend to some random time on Monday. But only after like 12 tonight
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 1:32 am

Have fun!
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 1:50 am

I'm not even going to say what I think of the new exp thing other then it is sad to see that site shift to a more solo play than a group one.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 3:08 am

There's no new exp system... that is SOLELY for training purposes. And I think it's b/c training used to be something that people did in solos and you moved your storyline and everything in group RPs. Also, it might be b/c a lot of ppl have been trading in EXP for techs, so this is a way to get legitimate training RPs going for people b/c writing 2000 words solo about sucking at creating a fireball is kind of a pain. Also, like I noted, Shin, for some reason unknown to me, also reduced the group training WC by 50 words per star, so really the solo thing is useful up to a point and then you're going to want to Perfect your abilities in a group.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 3:19 am

rekoa wrote:
I'm not even going to say what I think of the new exp thing other then it is sad to see that site shift to a more solo play than a group one.
There's no new system since nothing really changed. If you do group RPs, your updates will actually be the same if not cheaper given trainings were decreased 50 words.

The only basic change is that you can learn a technique in 750 words if you do it in a solo. For a site where NO ONE does solo trainings, this isn't too bad; I'm almost certain it won't take away from the group RPs people already do. It won't effect the RPs you and I currently do.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 3:26 am

Psi Prince wrote:
Also, it might be b/c a lot of ppl have been trading in EXP for techs...
This is also true; maybe now people can do more RPs instead of solely trading in EXP for techniques. I don't see this as some large movement to try to stop people from doing group RPs; that will always be the backbone of the activity.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptySat Jul 03, 2010 3:52 am

Hey! I do solo trainings sometimes!
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 10:58 am

i assure u everything is betterer
i'm trying to expand things and make stuff more enjoyable bit by bit
future changes'll be aimed towards this goal
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 4:08 pm

ahahaha!

i have conquered the white text issue
css was made my biatch
you should now be able to see who posted on last posts
(the place where it was blending in w/the background)
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 4:59 pm

(li)Back to reality... no... I wanna go back to the Realm where the happiness & music doesn't stop! (li) says:
*and I can't believe you wrote "I'm not reading that"
Shin'Tre [ H2H ] @ Work says:
*lmao!
*i out lazy'd ash!
(li)Back to reality... no... I wanna go back to the Realm where the happiness & music doesn't stop! (li) says:
*f that
*I got stamina yo

i actually WILL read that stuff, but i'm bout to get off today. i PREFER just what your askin for.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 5:01 pm

LIES! This is Shin Propaganda! You'll probably make someone else read it and summarize it for you.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 5:03 pm

*uses obama voice*

now i know... there are some people who think... that i might be evil...
now that just not true
i just want everyone to know that i love all my members... equally

*calls the neutralizers to take CARE of kaz*

now... we can all live together in peace... love... and happiness...
in the words of shin....

let's get it... thank you

IT'S ALL GOOD!
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 5:08 pm

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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 5:26 pm

I returned the laziness by accepting his original compromises, even though I didnt change anything.. just wanted to clarify what I intended on them actually doing.. i just started working on all of it, its show time ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 6:14 pm

Wow, so we're editing my posts now... well he tweaked/questioned/denied damn near all of them, so yeah... I couldn't do that. Sad It's ok tho b/c I prefer the revised version to Siphon. Guardian would have been cooler than Construct, but Construct is tactically sound for Mukhya's fighting style b/c I'm trying to stay away from making one man army style.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 6:25 pm

thats supreme shin-ness in action right there..
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 6:40 pm

Godspeed.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 8:46 pm

How is "Godspeed" applicable there?
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 9:24 pm

Don't hate.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 06, 2010 10:15 pm

Now, now children. Be nice.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 07, 2010 1:01 am

escalation wrote:
Don't hate.
Says the King of Haters!
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 07, 2010 10:02 am

lmao!
he gotta point there.
>.>
but i dun take sides tho

yo! we need a disclaimer to explain that kaz and kyro are actually friends and the site scapegoats.
ppl need to know it's OKAY to pick on them
otherwise it'll seem like we're mean or somethin
IT'S ALL GOOD

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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 07, 2010 4:53 pm

F THAT, F HIM (no homo), and F HIS BIRTHDAY! That's 3 F's for Kyro!
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 07, 2010 6:54 pm

Them? I was only aware of the green light for picking on Kaz. It should also be noted somewhere that Psi Prince is Kaz and not a random metrosexual.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 07, 2010 7:54 pm

and other than me, who would be a random metrosexual..
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 07, 2010 9:40 pm

Antifreke wrote:
I thought he was asking whether or not they could be the same..

"Soullines are inherited abilities. These are not external abilities, they are abilities that are already within a character, only they have not been released yet. "

Wouldn't that just make them like an inherited custom? Since it is an ability that you are born with, it makes sense that it could be within your affinity, as that is your primary focus of ability.

example : you are fire, you have kids and your fire skill is passed down to them, where their affinity is fire as well. thus they are great at fire, just like you were
They are character specific more so than package specific. Since Soullines aren't meant to be extensions of pre-existing packages, the thing custom techniques are, then it makes sense for them to be omitted from the beneficial properties of ones affinity (i.e. reduced stamina and learning). This is strengthened by the fact that they are worlds cheaper to create than custom techniques based on packages.

Though, since your character is The Lightning Tiger, it makes sense that you would come from a line of lightning based Kami, thus your Soulline reflects your affinity. So if the question is "if my affinity is fire, can I make a fire based Soulline?" then the answer is yes, or a strong maybe. If the question asks "is the costs reduced based on the affinity properties?" then the answer would be no, or else everyone would be creating Soullines to extend their packages. It's also notable that you don't have to master a package in order to create a Soulline like you have to do for customs; this is mainly because Soullines probably shouldn't be extensions of preexisting packages.

Though, due to the fact that Soullines are incredibly cheap in cost and often don't have high stamina costs, it probably doesn't matter if you get the affinity bonus for them or not, so not having it cannot be considered a bad thing.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Jul 07, 2010 9:59 pm

I understand all of that, and im not arguing against it..
after all, we can have 5 customs now that are extensions of our packages. I made mine that way for my storyline, since I hate most other packages. As a lightning user, I use just lightning for most everything.

im glad you got what I was aiming at though ^_^
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 08, 2010 1:49 pm

@ Anti

Oh, I was just referring to the point amount lol. Not that he was totally weak (though he does have a ways to go lol)
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 08, 2010 6:33 pm

I think perhaps Soullines and Taintings should give a static quantity.
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyThu Jul 08, 2010 7:42 pm

I agree. If you have it with all 5 techniques, maybe like a solid 50 points or something.. unless you want to just group it in with the custom section
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:54 am

ok static it shall be
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyMon Jul 12, 2010 10:55 am

actually no...
treat the xformation as a transformation in the quantity
and treat the techs as customs
that should work out w/out me having to change anything xD
cheers
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 01, 2010 12:14 pm

ShinTre_Admin wrote:
okay, so by popular demand this will be the OOC board
no more monthlies!

>.> Liar...
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 01, 2010 12:24 pm

Can we get your system, version 2.0? lol
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 01, 2010 12:39 pm

aroo?
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyWed Sep 01, 2010 5:25 pm

your character tier spreadsheet, care to do an updated version to make things simple?
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PostSubject: Re: THE OOC Board   THE OOC Board - Page 2 EmptyThu Sep 02, 2010 9:31 am

oh that... :/
ya i'll look into it xD
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